• ironpangolin29@lemmy.ca
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    25 days ago

    Getting in a tiff about this lake shmake nonsense lends to its legitimacy.

    Let’s talk turkey. How about them heretofore Epstein files, now known as the trump files.

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    24 days ago

    Well good, about time they put warnings on maps. Above is the lake, below is america. You have been warned.

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      Some of us are dealing with it, but since it was another country who’s people democratically elected evil all we can do is boycott. Unfortunately, the people in that country can’t be bothered to even do that; all they can manage is to wave some signs around on the occasional weekend.

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    25 days ago

    Honestly, this is pure overreaction once again. It’s well known that Google (and most non-OSS maps) show their information for your location based on the official sources for that location. The new, official name in the US for Lake Ontario is Lake America, like it or not. That this is stupid, unhinged and a fully retarded Trump take is true, but it’s official for the American side. Canada could do the same and call it Lake Canada. It doesn’t change how other countries call it, but any country could name it the way it wants.

    This is not some Trumpist at Google doing insider work. This is not a conspiracy of Google supporting Trump. It’s that Google maps is querying its data from some source and pushing it into maps, as they do with any country official source, if it’s available.

    Again, not defending Google’s other shit or Trumps madness, but in this case they’re showing the correct data. What’s the issue here?

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      24 days ago

      Complying with Trump’s insane bullshit is supporting him. They should draw a fucking line and not update the map. Or use a source that hasn’t changed the name. It still shows lake Ontario in Canada. He should have to force every single fucking thing he does through court to make anything happen.

    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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      24 days ago

      Then why does Google show “Gulf of America” in brackets to Europeans? Why did Google update “Lake America” to Americans faster than the actual usgs maps?

      Sycophancy is the answer.

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      25 days ago

      They could do the right thing and resist the fascism. You know, like how anybody with a platform and a moral compass would do. But I suppose expecting shitty companies to not be shitty is too much to ask.

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        This is not about what you consider fascism, or who you like or not. Trump has been elected, and even if it’s because of a bunch of morons, but he is rightfully and unfortunately the president. He threw a tantrum once again, and renamed the lake for the US - again, also rightfully, as any country could do, and any other country may ignore it, as they also do. Google Maps (specifically Maps, not Google as a corp) job is to provide accurate cartography, and in the US the accurate and legitimate name is now Lake America.

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          He only has the power to do that for the executive branch. He can’t compel citizens or corporations to follow along - not with the law anyway. He is getting away with it because the people whose pockets he’s lining are happy to play along as long as number goes up. That’s all they care about.

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            He only has the power to do that for the executive branch. He can’t compel citizens or corporations to follow along - not with the law anyway.

            Exactly. And when companies and citizens are rushing to comply out of either fear of retribution or the hope that sycophancy will keep them in the protected “in-group”?..

            Thats fascism.

          • x1gma@lemmy.world
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            24 days ago

            How exactly are you imagining Maps doing that change, taking this as a specific example? Pichai’s red trump phone ringing? Immediate order within Google after someone read Trump’s xwitter posts?

            For the US Google polls the data from GNIS (which is an official government entity), just as there is the CGNDB for Canada, OSNGD for the UK, CGA for Australia, and something similar for anything that’s remotely considered a first world country.

            This is not a political change, it probably would cost Google more effort to not follow the rename, instead of relying on the systems and processes that are in place for years already.

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              If this were about pulling data from GNIS, it would have taken at least a month to show up on their platform. Its governent data and legacy data pipelines.

              Some Google developer had to write an entry for this to happen so fast. 100%.

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              Do you have a source for Google pulling for GNIS? I can’t imagine it would be an easy thing to collate with Google’s own data about geographical features.

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            24 days ago

            He’s also threatening companies with legal action if they don’t follow his every whim. Trump is a 10 year old bully daydreaming about being a mob boss in an 80 year old corpse.

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      25 days ago

      It’s well known

      It is their practice but it’s not a law of nature, or even a law of any kind. As an American company they could have shown balls and ignored Trump shenanigan. Expectedly, they didn’t.

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      Private companies are not compelled to follow executive orders. They are instructions for the executive branch of the us government, per article 2 of the us constitution situation. Not the entire country. Not even the entire US government. Trump acts as if he is a king with limitless power, and then proceeds as if it were true. It works because the current US government is happy to play along, as are giant corpos, such as Google, et al. This is a massive psyop brothers and sisters. Use Google when you have to. Use Amazon if you have to. Fill up your gas tank and wash your lettuce. But for god’s sake do not be fooled, and do not play along.

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        24 days ago

        There has never been a square meter of dirt that deserved a bomb dropped on it more than that square meter of dirt in that photo. The world would instantly be a better place.

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    25 days ago

    If you’re bored, report missing information and say the lake is wrong and that this will cause conflicts with street signs and directions for actual locations. May as well give them a bunch of support tickets that waste some amount of resources

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      25 days ago

      I’m sure after making this kind of change, they also have an automated system that redirects all related support tickets directly to the trash.

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        Google has been sending support requests directly to the trash for at least 20 years, nothing new here

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          They even seem to have some automations for it. The route to my old apartment was shown wrong and delivery drivers almost always popped up on the wrong side of my building behind my backyard. I tried to fix this but my edits were automatically rejected as being malicious. That’s one reason I don’t use Google Maps for navigation anymore.

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          It seems like the majority of Google products and features are built to support someone’s promotion effort. Once they are promoted or if they quit the company, no one else is around to support it and the product is eventually canceled. Thats why the list here is so long: https://killedbygoogle.com/. And good luck even getting through to a real person for support. Its bots all the way down.

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      25 days ago

      Just installed it to compare my driving route tomorrow with Google Maps and OsmAnd crashed. Sigh.

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        I think car navigation is better in CoMaps, even though OsmAnd is superior in every other way.

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          I really don’t like the user experience of OsmAnd to the point where I find it unusable. I use Comaps all the time and love it. Each to their own I guess.

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        OsmAnd doesn’t crash for me but for some reason it gives most directions as notifications instead of saying them out loud, which is completely useless. I use HERE WeGo instead.

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    Google was a little quick on this one. Not even a day and they changed it for Americans.

    They’re also absolutely cowardly - the rest of the world hate Trump and they know it because they’re even too spineless to commit to putting it on everyone’s Map.