If you have any sense of privacy, you know better than to use Google’s official Youtube clients - not to mention, they’re really kind of terrible.

To view Youtube video comfortably and limit Google’s privacy invasions, the main third-party clients are:

Unfortunately, if you’ve been using those third-party clients for a long time, you know Google plays a game of cat and mouse with them, to discourage users from using them:

  • Google breaks something or other (usually the player API) or Google blocks your IP because it detects a non-Google player.
  • The developers of those clients play catch-up, make their clients work again for a while.
  • Google breaks them again. Rinse. Repeat.

And Google now having free rein to be as abusive as they want under the Trump regime, it’s not getting any better ☹️

The developers who react most quickly to Google’s shenanigans are the FUTO developers behind Grayjay: when Google breaks it, usually they have a fix within hours, if not less. And there’s a reason for that: they’re paid to do it. Incidentally, I encourage you to purchase a FUTO license: it’s money well spent to encourage FUTO. They’ve really earned it.

The Newpipe developers are also fairly quick to fix their client. Not always, but they do a pretty decent job.

Freetube however can take many days to get fixed. For instance, the native Freetube player is currently broken and it’s been broken for a week.

When Google plays with everybody’s balls, if you’re on mobile, at least Grayjay will almost always get the job done, so you don’t have to compromise your privacy and hit the official client.

On the desktop however, unless you have an ARM64 machine and you use Grayjay as a desktop app in Waydroid - which is a totally valid solution that works great, in case you didn’t know [EDIT: this is incorrect: there is in fact an x64 Grayjay desktop client - Thanks @portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com], Freetube will sadly let you down regularly for a long time.

The official workaround recommended by the Freetube developers when Google breaks their player is to use an external player. But there are two problems with that:

  • If you don’t use the right external players - which Google likely broke too - or the player isn’t configured to use the latest and greatest Google evasion code, it’s not going to work.
  • When spawning Freetube with a URL (typically by LibRedirect from your browser), Freetube ignores the external player and tries to play the video with its broken internal player anyway. You can always manually tell it to use the external player after it’s failed trying to play the video itself, but it’s an extra step, and you end up running both Freetube and the external player just to view a Youtube video from a website.

So I figured I’d post a little guide on how to setup an external video player that works with Freetube (and gets fixed quickly when Google breaks it) and how to spawn it directly from your browser to view a video and bypass LibRedirect / Freetube entirely.

This little guide is mostly for Linux. If you’re not running Linux, the principle should be the same, but the details of how to make this work are different of course.

So the player you need is SMPlayer. SMPlayer is a great mpv player frontend in its own right. Don’t worry, both mpv and SMPlayer are usually available in most distros, so you can install it normally with your favorite package manager.

But the thing that makes SMPlayer great is, to play Youtube video, it can use yt-dlp as a backend to fetch the video from Youtube:

SMplayer preferences setting to use yt-dlp as a backend to fetch Youtube videos

And it turns out, the developers of yt-dlp are usually very quick to unfuck Google’s fuckeries and make it work again. Almost as quick as FUTO’s developers: when Google breaks things, yt-dlp is usually one of the first Youtube clients to start working again.

The problem is, the version of yt-dlp that comes in most distributions is usually hopelessly behind, so it won’t work with your distro’s official package.

To use the latest and greatest yt-dlp with SMPlayer, you need to use the version in the Github repo. To do this:

  • Clone the repo (for example in your home directory): git clone --recurse-submodules https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp.git
  • Make yt-dlp available in your PATH: ln -s ~/yt-dlp/yt-dlp.sh ~/.local/bin/yt-dlp

Then if you invoke yt-dlp from any directory, it should start it correctly:

$ yt-dlp  

Usage: yt-dlp [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]  

yt-dlp: error: You must provide at least one URL.  
Type yt-dlp --help to see a list of all options.  

Then you can try if SMPlayer now plays a Youtube video correctly: smplayer https://youtu.be/jNQXAC9IVRw

Finally, configure Freetube to use SMPlayer as an external player:

Freetube external player setting

Now try to play a video from Freetube: it should open SMPlayer and SMPlayer should play the video correctly.

When Google breaks yt-dlp again, simply go into the repo and do a git pull --recurse-submodules. Do this regularly until the yt-dlp folks work their magic and fix it, which should happen a lot quicker than fixing the internal Freetube player.

Finally, how to spawn SMPlayer directly from the browser:

  • Install the RunWith browser extension: this little thing is a simple tool to spawn an external program from the browser and it’s really underrated. Not terribly user-friendly to install but it does the job fine.
  • In the RunWith extension preferences, configure RunWith like so:

Setting in the RunWith browser extension to run SMPlayer on Youtube video links

Then if you right-click on a Youtube video link, you’ll get an option in the context menu to open it with SMPlayer through RunWith:

RunWith context menu option

I hope this helps 🙂

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    I have been using yt.dlp with links generated through freetube. This is the first Ive heard of a desktop version for Grayjay Ill check it and consider a license.

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    Thanks, this helped. Although I keep yt-dlp installed with pip so for me instead of github it’s just a pip3 install yt-dlp -U.

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    Hey!
    Where’s invidious?? the option to self-host your web yt client??
    Or just using yt-dlp?

    (tho, I lightly use yt nowadays, the content is getting satire…)

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    Just so you know, if you like freetube, you can configure the external player to mpv, which underneath uses yt-dlp when streaming, and use the button to load the external player. Of course one can also launch smplayer, which underneath is using mpv, which underneath…

    But the thing is content creators don’t move out of YT cause they’re there to monetize in the first place. So this thing seems never ending no matter alternatives like peertube exist.

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      Just a heads up for people though the method you describe where you set a hotkey to open a video externally to mpv currently isn’t working as google has essentially borked youtube-dl. Just tried it right now via qutebrowser and youtube-dl can’t read the urls anymore.

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    I encourage you to purchase a FUTO license: it’s money well spent to encourage FUTO. They’ve really earned it.

    You should stop promoting FUTO’s proprietary software. It is also against community rules.

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    Very thought out write-up! I generally use Freetube, as I’m primarily a desktop user, but since it’s been down, I learned how to use yt-dlp, and picked up some GUIs that sit on it to try out. It’s been a little surreal watching everything as a self contained file, but almost nostalgic in a way too.

    That said, I look forward to when things get patched up on the Freetube front.

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      It’s been a little surreal watching everything as a self contained file

      Yes the main .py is quite a pile of code 🙂

      It’s one of those projects that grew organically and never got reorganized. I maintain a niche open-source project like that that has a few dozen kilobyte main Python file and I’m ashamed of it. But then it’s so niche I don’t really want to spend the time reorganizing it.

      yt-dlp would benefit from that though…

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    Just stop using youtube…

    Oh, ad Tubular to your list over Android players…

    And then keep asking for videoes on other platforms…

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      and when I ask my favorite creators, what do I bring up as the upside? that it doesn’t have ads?

      that’s not an upside for a lot of them.

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        Ethics, control over your own content, the possibility to avoid bot-farms, censorship, a more engaged audience, the possibility to make content that is true to the creators wishes, and doesn’t have to conform to algorithms that often change. There’s a lot of upsides to it - but feel free to keep the shitty system going, for your comfort.

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    Great write up, thanks. But I use grayjay desktop on an x64 machine. There’s definitely a desktop app for itoutaode of ARM devices.

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    Thanks for the suggestion to use sm-player via freetube with youtube-dl – It’s been frustrating recently trying to watch the odd video on youtube (which is essentially a monopoly if you ask me).

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    Thank you for the recommendation. I have been wanting to try out the FUTO apps (which grayjay) for a while but couldn’t find it on f-droid. It looks like they have their own repo which you need to add.

    Just got grayjay downloaded and it is so good!

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      Grayjay is really much more than a YouTube frontend. It’s a cross-platform video player, which I find is the only way to watch PeerTube videos! Outside of PieFed! And I think is really the best way to end YTs reign.

      Although I wish there was a web client…

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        Peertube is also (well hidden) integrated to NewPipe and its forks. In the left menu, tap YouTube to find all supported platforms.

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      who is the thief here? One who wants outsized profit beyond 10 generations of children? Or the average overworked joe who hates dealing with the 3rd 2 minute ad on a 10 minute video?

      Maybe realise that there’s more important things to worry than denying “projected profits” from a billion dollar megacorp which steals regularly from people (in the form of bribing politicians to make policies that benefit them and disadvantage actual people, or destroying the earth for training LLMs, or stealing content to use for the same LLMs)

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      You guys ever wonder if maybe if the answer is to stop stealing s*?

      There are two ways to be honest with normal companies:

      1/ You pay them and they stop monetizing your data
      2/ You don’t patronize their services and you choose a competitor instead

      Unfortunately, with Google as with most other surveillance capitalism monopolies, it doesn’t work that way:

      1/ If you don’t pay Google, they violate your privacy and abuse your data. If you pay them, they don’t stop: you just gave them extra money because you’re gullible.
      2/ Youtube is a virtual monopoly. There is no valid competition to speak of. And unfortunately, a lot of the societal discourse now happens on Youtube. So it’s kind of unavoidable.

      Therefore, Google being the abusive monopoly that it is, you have no way to deal with the essential service they provide honestly and pay your fair share - which I honestly would gladly do - without compromising your privacy. They put themselves in a position to be this abusive.

      Therefore, I consider my duty towards paying honestly for Youtube waived. That’s why I’m happy to pay for a FUTO license for the work they do with the Grayjay client, but I’ll never give Google a cent: FUTO respects me while Google spits in my face.

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      I was thinking about it but google does not agree, they continue doing it, so we must do what we can to protect our community privacy

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    For Android TV there is the SmartTube client and somehow I always find that one working fine while the rest are struggling