cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/54245880

The U.S. war with Iran has raised fossil fuel prices so much that the resulting drop in oil demand has put the world on track to see a rare dip in carbon emissions from these sources in 2026.

Between 2019 and 2025, carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels grew by about 0.8 percent annually, according to a new study published in Nature Climate Change. But 2026 is set to buck that trend: high oil prices, as well as the continued rise of green technology—solar power, wind and electric cars—will cause a “short-term” 0.4 percent drop, according to the study.

“The high petrol prices following the war in Iran are reducing oil use and keeping emissions low,” says the study’s lead author Corinne Le Quéré, a professor of climate change science at the University of East Anglia in England. “But that’s not the whole story: The expansion of renewable energy has progressed a lot in recent years, led by China. And [along with electric vehicles], this is offsetting two thirds of the growing demand for energy.”

With all sources of carbon considered, including deforestation, total global CO2 emissions are set to continue increasing.

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    With all sources of carbon considered, including deforestation, total global CO2 emissions are set to continue increasing.

    Well that’s not good.

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      Between covid and the Iran war, Trump is the most environmentally friendly president ever!

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    I said 20 years ago that we should let gas prices rise. My target at the time was $10/gallon. If we believe capitalism works then let it work for us. You add another digit to the cost of regular unleaded and you watch how fast people adopt EVs.

    Climate Change wasn’t the focus of my angst back then but probably should have been.

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        Public transit won’t work in a lot of america. And a lot of america cannot afford an ev.

        I even weigh the costs of an ev , but its just too much to offset. Not to mention unrepairable and loaded with spyware.

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          What’s your source for that claim regarding public transit? Especially considering every single town in America once had rail connections and street cars?

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        just like reduce -> reuse -> recycle which is ordered in what you should do first.

        Same can be said for transit, reduce the need for transit first (work from home), then use public transit, then use non-fossil fuel vehicles.

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          Also like recycling, EVs are a way for corporations to push the responsibility for environmentalism onto the individual.

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    So… Trump did something that had a positive effect? Not that it’s a net positive, I mean, he started an illegal war and bombed schools with kids inside. And talking about children, don’t forget he raped kids.

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      On a global scale, Trump has done a lot of good by directly undermining the power of the US Empire and accelerating its decline.

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        Accelerationism Works, just so long as you don’t count all the people viciously slaughtered in the transitional period

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      Trump has done quite a few positive things

      • he triggered increased growth in renewable energy
      • he encouraged Europe to stand stronger together
      • he encouraged Canada to pursue stronger trading partnership with Europe
      • he’s building unity in the United Nations
      • he’s helping China emerge as a “good guy”
      • he’s helping legacy auto manufacturers transition the industry to new technology companies without a fight
      • he’s helped the worlds richest man come out as his true self, instead of merely a quirky businessman with the vision to invest in future technologies that disrupt stagnant established industries
      • and lately Trump is the one who has done the most by far to build political activity, shared view on the direction of the country and renews enthusiasm across the Democrat party
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        he’s helping China emerge as a “good guy”

        More like enabling China to do whatever the fuck they want, which isn’t good. China is far from a good guy.

        he triggered increased growth in renewable energy

        Did he? He’s hard against it. There’s only a growth because AI data centers take any form of energy. But the growth of fossil fuel energy sources is growing even more.

        he encouraged Europe to stand stronger together

        He’s also trying to divide Europe, which is far more successful than I wish it was.

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            The county of China has committed the unforgivable act of Being Prosperous Without Being White.

            Westerners will never forgive them.

            India also increasingly on the Western shit list, as evidenced by folks like Bo French losing their shit over kids cheering a football game.

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            How many Oeigoers are in concentration camps? How many people are being secretly executed in mobile execution vans? All while they are preparing to invade Taiwan, make predatory deals with African countries and commit murder abroad to anyone considered enemy of the state. Oh and did you know they are building the strongest most modern military right now? They used to be defensive, but are now fully focusing on offensive. I wonder why…

            There are other ways than bombing countries to be fucking evil.

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              How many Oeigoers are in concentration camps?

              Guy in a country overflowing with concentration camps, currently carpet bombing multiple countries for being too Muslim

              “Okay, but consider Xinjiang!”

              Incidentally…

              Fascist westerners absolutely seeth when they see this picture.

              All while they are preparing to invade Taiwan

              Americans have accused China of planning to invade Taiwan longer than they’ve been accusing Iran of plotting to bomb Israel.

              More efforts have been made by Taiwanese nationalists to retake the mainland than the reverse.

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        Lol, let’s not forget the democratic party is all about breaking oil production records, war and genocide, same as the republicans. The problem is America, not the controlling uniparty.

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      Trump almost single handedly destroying American hard and soft power is unironically one of the greatest achievements of the human race up to this point. He is accidentally a great man of history, lol.

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        He is accidentally a great man of history

        I wouldn’t go as far as that honestly. He’s still a child raping corrupt piece of shit.

        It’s like saying Hitler was a good guy because of all the autobahns.

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          Trump is not a good man, but he is undeniably a Great Man, in the sense of the Great Man theory of history, which claims that the path of history is set by a handful of specific personalities pushing the world in directions via their will.

          Put it like this: the Napoleonic era was named after Napoleon because so much of the history requires reading Napoleon’s bio. Eventually, these last 12+ years will be called the Trump era.

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            Unfortunately I agree with you but let’s not forget that Reagan walked so Trump could waddle. Without Reagan we wouldn’t have Trump or a recognizable Republican party. I don’t know what we would have but he started the trend of deregulation, tough on crime, and antimmigrationism that is the root of Republican beliefs today. Trump is just really good at taking credit for other people’s work.

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            what. They literally were connected to ALL of your points?? They were built to facilitate large scale military logistics, moving troops AND victims of the largest genocide in Europe??

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    I was almost excited, but then you (rightfully) crushed it, OP.

    With all sources of carbon considered, including deforestation, total global CO2 emissions are set to continue increasing.

    Sigh. Still on track for my children starving to death in the famines to come.

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      Unless you’re over 70, I’ve got some bad news about you starving to death too.

      Every single negative impact of climate change has happened and is happening “faster than expected” according to the world’s leading climate scientists.

      Next year could be a multi breadbasket failure, leading to hundreds of millions of deaths.

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        Yea, I guess I figured if the worst takes 15 years to get here, then I’ll be older and killed by it and it’ll be okay because my kids will be young adults with their best chance of survival.

        But if it’s next year, then my kids are still pretty young and vulnerable. And if my kids don’t make it, I don’t really care to either.

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    Yes, this is good news. People really need to understand that we have to stop using oil cars NOW. How high do we need to increase the price to get people to understand this?

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      It’s not a peoples problem, at least not fully. The problem is a government and car manufacturers problem. The government needs to massively invest into public charging infrastructure, cos not everyone owns their own house where they simply can install a wallbox and charge comfortably at home. Especially nowadays, where ever fewer people can afford a home in the first place. You could give people an EV for free and it would still of no use for a lot of them simply cos they have no place to charge it. And car manufacturers need to focus more on affordable EVs as well instead of on SUVs for like 60k or whatever. Also, not everyone likes to drive an SUV. But to be fair that’s also a problem with ICE cars that those get constantly bigger and compact cars are going extinct. We should do it like Japan with their Kei-Cars.

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    Sucks how our quality of life has been made inversely proportional to the health of the environment. Most of us have been locked in to fossil fuel dependence whether we like it or not.

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        In the US, even the denser populated areas are still sprawling, car-dependent wastelands. Actual, healthy, walkable cities are few and far between, and are almost always reserved for rich people.

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          The northeast has many more densely populated places with great walkability, but in general, look for place built out before cars drove sprawl.

          And many of these places are also the most desirable. The places people most want to live.

          You got us on the “rich people” though. We definitely have a real problem with high cost of living. My state’s population has long been stable to shrinking, predominantly because people just can’t afford to live here.

          We lost ballot question 7 to override minimum lot sizes across the state to a mere 5,000 sq ft, by only 32,000 votes and many of these opponents thought it wouldn’t have been enough. The breakdown was exactly as you’d expect with urban areas agreeing and sprawling suburbs disaagreeing

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          I don’t agree—there are many old cities and even new urbanist planned areas. If people create demand, construction will follow, and that has consistently been toward greenfield developments.

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            You’re free to disagree. The US is a big place, I’m sure there are some exceptions out there. But I think generally my point is correct.

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    Gonna be real, you’d have practically give electric cars away if we want people to not use gas. My disabled ass cannot afford nor have the energy and motivation to go buy a used one,let alone a new one. it is out of reach.

    And even then gas huffers will literally kill if you try to force them to use electric. They need to hear the gas exploding to offset thier small parts, and how else are you going to impress your redneck buddies down by the creek.

    And don’t even get me started on the fucks who actually nut when a engine roars, they will do… Terrible things to keep thier fetish alive.

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      Not sure where the sarcasm ends here so

      • prices are getting closer every year, and that’s what the incentives were meant to counter. If not for protectionism, US would have comparably priced EVs like a lot of the rest of the world does
      • operating cost of EVs is much lower, especially now
      • as charging infrastructure is built out, more and more people will realize a new cheaper and easier option. No need to force anyone
      • I still have my car in “Halloween mode” where it roars. It actually startled me a few times, even though I should be expecting it

      Funny anecdote …… last night I drove to a shopping center to replace a headlight bulb on my kids car while they’re at work. Picture me parking next to an older Subaru, popping the hood, bending low over the engine compartment, contorting my upper body to maneuver my hands to the back of the headlights when suddenly behind me “ROAR”. Fucking a, even a little jump hurts when you’re tangled into an engine

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        I bring in less than 12k a year, find me an electric car I can afford on top of rent and food. :D I did not ask about charging infrastructure, it’s there, no argument. Motor heads -NOT I make fun of fake engine noises.