Apple iOS now requires age verification to access websites it deems 18+. Not even using another browser like Firefox works, it’s blocked at the OS level.

I was putting off switching to Graphene or e/os until prices improve, but looks like my hand is forced.

Edit: VPN doesn’t even work because Apple knows your GPS location. I haven’t tried location spoofing yet because that’s a bit more annoying to setup.

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    I had this pop up personally, thankfully my Apple account itself is old enough to vote - so that was the extent of the age verification.

    Still doesn’t bode well for younger generations though.

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    Thank Australia first. Apple is just complying with their rules at this point. Not that they mind imo, but still, it comes from the government overreach.

    Edit: Reading some other comments that I might be wrong about the laws. Still something to bring to your lawmakers as an issue needing addressed. Apple effectively telling the Australian people what they can and cannot see.

    Though it does look like it might stem from the social media restrictions put in place.

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      Australian restrictions for social media and pornography do not require OS level enforcement, it applies to the sites to restrict access. OS level enforcement has come from several US state legislation and EU/UK push. Google/ Android will likely be rolling it out soon (this is part of Google enforcing stricter app store developer requirements) and technically Windows and Mac should be pushing it at the desktop level.

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    For gOS just get a pixel second hand. Orthe new motorla rip off.

    The new pixel is a downgrade from the 10. 7 and upare perfectly modern and capable for what anyone wans that isnt an AI tech brat.

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    FYI, there are no alternative browsers on iOS. Every single one is Safari with a skin, even Firefox. This is also a requirement by Apple, and one of the many reasons why I’ll never own an iPhone. It’s my device; I should be allowed to use any browser I want, install anything I want.

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      Yeah these guys are overcomplying and promoting censorship. Never seen a big tech company take this stance. Fuck them. Post Covid big tech is shady as.

      All Apple had to do was age verify their App Store. And on that they had the nerve to force it a month before quietly releasing a on device facial age estimation option rather than just rely on id or credit card. Forcing many to use id/credit card when esafety would have been lenient enough to wait.

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        Big tech has always been shady. Lockdowns just provided an easy powergrab and the means yo take the power without having to hide it.

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        Never seen a big tech company take this stance

        Optus blocked 4chan after the Christchurch massacre. Nobody asked them to.

        This looks like it’s on another level though. That site is tame. Totally SFW.

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    That’s why people need to be against censorship, in principle. If people’s only objection is that it ‘isn’t implemented correctly’, people will just try and they again to implement it “correctly”. We need to squash it down from the start.

    Censorship just hurts marginalised youth, especially trans youth since HRT is so age sensitive. And you cannot trust parents to safeguard their kids, no, just because you gave birth to someone does not mean you know what’s best for them, crazy ik

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    I got this same page when trying to connect to a WiFi hotspot (In the UK). Now I’m planning a migration plan for the family away from iOS.

    Most people won’t care but for me this is where it crosses a line.

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      Yeah… this is the first time I’ve felt like someone reached into my device and said “no, fuck you.” No tricks or traps work, because it’s operating system level bullshit.

      The thing I paid like $1600AUD for a few years ago is no longer my property; the terms have been changed retroactively. It makes me quite angry, actually.

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        It never was your property. Which is why I don’t use devices with proprietary OS.

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    The only people who can control any apple device are the people working the back end of Apple’s ecosystem

    Did you know they already did that in the UK?..even though they weren’t obligated to.

    You can’t VPN to the UK, Australia or any of the EU countries anymore because of this crap. And in case anyone hasn’t figured it out yet, it’s not about protecting kids from anything. It’s about unmasking everyone online and the next step will be digital ID and CBDC

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      What is apple’s endgame of unmasking everyone online? Better ad placement? Hardly seems worth it.

      Or does apple really have interest in allowing governments around the world to track and identify people who view certain content or say certain things?

      Like how does this benefit apple?

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        Better ad placement.

        Apples ad department hasnt been a very good money maker, so Apple has been doing everything they can to just block competition on Apple devices to make sure that they could be the best ad company for Apple users. They block all they can from other companies but then track the hell out of you so they can serve ads to you that are more valuable to marketers.

        They get away with it mostly by claiming they are protecting their users privacy, when its really to block competition. Its quite an eye opener when you read all of Apples privacy policies.

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        Or does apple really have interest in allowing governments around the world to track and identify people who view certain content or say certain things?

        Like how does this benefit apple?

        “None of this appeared accidental. By aligning itself with the administration’s economic agenda, Apple shores up its chances of avoiding tariffs while reaffirming its ties with policymakers. It’s a familiar tactic. During Trump’s first term, Apple similarly sidestepped some tariffs by pointing to U.S. jobs and supplier partnerships.”

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        it benefits them because they get to continue having customers in dictatorships like china, the UK, australia and the EU.

        they’re bending over and pulling that fascist dick up their asses so they can keep operating in as many countries as possible.

        Before you say it. I’ll ask this…What do YOU call it when you get arrested for words that aren’t threats?

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            No free speech, Forced age verification, chat control. They made it illegal to run your AC during a heatwave.

            Do you really need more than that?

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              Freedom of expression is a EU law, age verification is stupid but isn’t enacted, the current chat control version is stupid but doesn’t force anything, and no it’s not illegal to run an AC you dumbass

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        It’s to combat bots and AI scrapers. It’s expensive tracking every bot and scraper out there. They created a problem. Now they want us to fix it for them so their money printer doesn’t slow down.

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        Permits to build factories, datacenters, other infrastructure. Better chances of striking deals. Being considered as a supplier when time comes to upgrade state phones and IT.

        Lots of potential benefits of licking the boot.

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      Maybe internet content will improve as a result. In my early life I was hard pro anonymous internet access, but the way social media content is impacting liberal societes I suspect now that was an error.

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        Mean internet comments with no one’s real name attached to them means you have a free and open internet for everyone. The solution to bad speech is good speech, not censorship and certainly not mandatory self-doxing

        forcing everyone on the internet to show ID is a huge cybersecurity risk. What with databreaches and all. Literally every ID verifier who said they delete the IDs once the account is verified was proven to be lying after they got hacked

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      What do you mean? That I can’t set up something like tailscale on iPhone? Or can I set it up as long as it’s in the same country and I can’t set up a makeshift VPN service by routing my traffic through a VPS in a different country?

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        in china? probably not on an apple device of any kind. In the UK? maybe, but if the apple device was first booted within the UK, apple might remove the software from your device. That’s something apple can do by the way, they can just take things off your device if they don’t want you to have them

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    I wanted to rewatch a theater play filmed in the 80’s on YouTube. This time it ask for my birth date to confirm I’m an adult. I clicked the button wondering which birth date I could have used on this account then it crashed. Tried thrice more, crashed each time.

    We living in a decade where the quality of internet service decreased in a obvious way. At the same time, we should have more restriction and start paying for it. Big tech should at least be consistent.

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    Why you need to be over 18 for for that site? It’s comedy and not pornography.

    Did they also ban news websites or is that brainwashing allowed?

    Try searching on startpage.com and from there click on visit in anonymous view …

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      I was trying to research a meme I saw recently here on Lemmy. Someone posted a photo of ramen called “soup for sluts”. I wanted to see if it was real, or A.I. generated like some commenters suggested.

      Yeah the search result is just a comedy website making fun of the ramen. That’s why I’m especially offended. My guess is that Apple simply detected the keywords in the title as pornography, rather than doing anything intelligent. I’d estimate that any website with the title containing naughty words would be blocked!

      Good idea with the startpage thing, though. It actually works! It’s a bit glitchy though; I was able to read for 10 seconds at a time before the website crashes. Better than nothing, though. Thanks!

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        My guess is that Apple simply detected the keywords in the title as pornography, rather than doing anything intelligent. I’d estimate that any website with the title containing naughty words would be blocked!

        By including naughty words in the titles of a bunch of important web pages, we could show them the stupidity of that move.

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          The problem with that is most of the important web pages are owned by the government or oligarchs (is there a difference anymore?) and we all know they’re all for this push for de-anonymization.