I’ve cancelled my subscription yesterday, conveniently it was about to renew at the end of the week, so I have a few days to migrate from Proton, here’s what I’m thinking of, but I’d love to hear what other people are switching to
Instead of bitwarden, i can recommend Aliasvault. VPN, well i made some good experiences with Xeovo. As for drive, i really like nextcloud myself which also has meet and chat. Filen is a good cloud too i think.
no love for disroot?
Ive switch to IVPN; Njalla is really appealing, but I dont think you get the options of switching countries/servers, which I like doing if I start getting throttled somewhere
I use RiseUp VPN. It works for everything, but please don’t use it to sail. Journalists rely on it and their hardware has been seized previously.
I’m fien with Murena Workspace (France) and Filen (Germany) for Cloud, both OpenSource. I don’t use VPN, only Cyberghost Proxy extension to skip country restrictions, maybe the SPN (multichannel VPN) of the Portmaster app, if needed one day
Bitwarden is getting worse btw unless you’re running it yourself
What did I miss?
Moving towards closed source: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bitwarden-Open-Source-Concerns
Which takes away the only good thing about them
closed source security products are a contradiction in terms
Yea… God I hate the world… I started using Bitwarden like… A few months ago, and they’re already going in the shitter…
they do at least make it very easy to migrate away
It seems it hasn’t happened yet. They are still open source for now. I am still using my Vaultwarden with Bitwarden.
It seems it might be going that way though.
If it goes fully closed source then I imagine the fix will be Vaultwarden devs coding some replacement apps.
Yea they haven’t done anything yet but afaik they changed their licenses to prepare to do it… So it’s only a matter of time
As a google proton collaborative calc sheets/word etc etc i suggest Cryptpad
Is there any free good email service other than Tuta?
All pricing are too high for people with average wage of my country.
Love mailbox.org. Had it for 5 years at this point. I have a custom domain, and a wildcard address, so anything before @ goes to my inbox. So whenever I sign up for anything I use a unique email. This way I know both where mails are coming from, and can easily block any compromised email addresses, and update my password. Good stuff!
Happy customer of Mailbox for 3 years here! At first the UI was awful, but now they have redesigned it very, very nicely. Yes you have to pay but the price is completely fair, particularly if you are a heavy email user.
UI aside, I have had 0 issues with them. I have a custom domain, so I can create many aliases. Being able to sync my contacts and calendar via WebDav thanks to Mailbox instead of having to use a Google account is a great plus. On the computer I use their website, but many people prefer Thunderbird. On my phone and tablet I use FairEmail (I’m a big fan of the dev. That man is on the road to create the most flexible email app in the universe).
They offer a full suite with Drive, Notes, Calendar… But I don’t use them much, so I can’t comment on them.
Mailbox.org starts at €1 per month.
Other than that, there’s the old adage “if you’re not paying, you’re the product”
Dude, even when you’re paying, you’re the product. These companies can get dirty. Like why is he moving from Proton if he was paying for it?
That’s exactly right. I got Proton Family about 13 or 14 months ago witha 2 years subscription, and am getting ready to run stalwart as my email server on a VPS and call it a day.
Have been testing for about 2 weeks, and after finally getting it right, it has been incredibly solid.
I tested the e2ee with my own proton email (pgp) and it’s flawless.
Before stalwart, I tried to have my own email server, what a pain in the ass that was. Not anymore.
Exactly! “I don’t call people”. I need the 911 button and the numbers for my family and that’s it. For everything else there’s Lemmy.
Exactly! “I don’t call people”. I need the 911 button and the numbers for my family and that’s it. For everything else there’s Lemmy.
… you have no friends?
For meet, I just generate a Signal meet link and share with people.
Instead of bitwarden, I use KeePass with Syncthing.
Instead of Lumo(the app was terribly slow), you can use ddg ai, on fdroid there is a 1mb webview container application of ddg ai specifically so if you dont want to use ddg browser, yoi can use that for their ai.
For 2fa, i use stratumauth.
I need a vpn alternative too.
Bitwarden’s gone private equity. I’d hold off on switching to them; maybe try to live with KeePass if you’re not on a family plan.
I would switch to KeePass if its sync method was more sane than “big binary file + Syncthing”, it seems like all the password manager options kindof suck in some way
I switched over to vaultwarden. I am stuck on an iPhone for the time being and I don’t care for all the Keepass ios apps.
Completely valid. I myself am still on Bitwarden, waiting for the other shoe to drop, but my family is already entrenched in it.
I think if I have to move them again, I might seriously consider forking keepass, adding the features I use in bitwarden.
I do not look forward to dealing with IOS tho.
Vaultwarden is completely Bitwarden-compatible. You can export all data from Bitwarden server/service, import it into Vaultwarden server, and your family will not notice the change at all, except you’ll ask them to change address in their already installed Bitwarden app.
They don’t need to change anything else. To them, it will still be the same Bitwarden.
i use Aegis for 2FA but it’s a PITA as there’s no Linux desktop program, so i need to reach for my phone for 2FA. Any recommendations for something running in Android and Linux desktop??
You can export your Aegis 2FA tokens and import them into a couple of different Linux desktop programs, including OTPClient.
https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/com.github.paolostivanin.OTPClient
This allows configuring “one” MFA token with each service, but also having it on one or more Linux computers and even on multiple Android devices (Aegis can also import.)
I imagine it is unwise to go nuts with this. Each place the tokens are at carries some small risk.
But I feel much betfer having mine in two places than in just one.
This is how I do it with syncthing, and is works great. Aegis on Android and Gnome authenticator on Linux.
Ente auth has both.
FuckAI and what its doing to our world, economy, and to human beings but… why is Proton getting the hard treatment when so many other “AI first” businesses get a free pass to exploit/consume/destroy? Eli5: What is it about this specific privacy-focused business that has caused it to be so vociferously singled out for punishment? Like, have the people calling for migrating away from Proton stopped using Amazon, Atislan, Facebook, Twitter, Adobe etc?
In my case, I stopped using Amazon, all meta services, twitter, and all that crap ages ago. Never used adobe except for the pdf reader when I used windows (9 years ago). No fucking idea what “atislan” is.
Imagine you are a vegetarian eating food from a reputable vegetratian food company. One day they start putting meat in the food. The non-vegetarians are not upset with this but you are. Why?
In my specific case I’ve already emancipated myself from Meta, Amazon, et al so I dont really need to post about it
Main reason this comes up is that Proton has recently eroded their customers trust, it’s normal to talk about it, and it doesnt mean people don’t care about other companies embedded in AI
If anything you can expect fediverse users to already be a step beyond moving away from those you cited, they’re techy enough to know better
I’m tired
Have people stopped trying Mullvad VPN for some reason? Is it no longer the best privacy focused one?
There was some drama after one of Mullvad’s cofounders was outed for donating considerable sums of money to right wing organizations. It’s fallen out of favour as the default recommendation as a result
Ah, I had no idea. Are any of the others anywhere near as private and secure?
I switched from Mullvad to IVPN, no complaints
Closest I’ve found to it, so far, is Windscribe
I’m not sure. Mullvad is still a good product, but what it funds is not.
If I’m entirely honest, I mostly see VPN services as a predatory market, inflated by their own marketing campaigns about the risk of personal privacy. There are some products who are true to their word, like Mullvad, but most are looking for a quick buck from the average user who might forget they have a running subscription if they keep the cost low enough.
Frankly, after seeing what’s happened with Proton and Mullvad, I’m not inclined to believe anyone in this market amounts to more than a paranoid libertarian at best.
One of the owners made a huge donation to a right-wing, anti-immigration Swedish political party, I believe. Someone feel free to correct me on the details.
I’ve been looking at both ivpn and airvpn as potential replacements.
