I have to rethink my priorities I guess.
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I think there should be one clock for the entire planet and fuck timezones. Most people don’t actually care about what specific number hour the sun rises. Zenith at 4? Fuckit. Communication between people is more important than the movement of celestial bodies.
In my country daylights savings makes even less sense. We are already out of sync with solar time, because of Hitler. The Netherlands should follow GMT not CET. When the Netherlands was occupied ze Germans instated CET. So setting the clock back during summer will actually make the Netherlands almost 2 hours out of sync with the sun.
Just move the damn clock 30 min, everybody looses/everybody wins.
Why do we need to change the clock twice a year when we know how many downsides there are?
- sleep disruptions, can take weeks to adjust
- 24% spike in heart attacks on the Monday after setting the clock forward
- 8% increased risk of stroke
- increased depressive episodes, worse mood, decreased cognitive performance
- 6% increase in traffic accidents
- more frequent workplace injuries
- increased pedestrian risk
- estimated between millions to billions of dollars in productivity loss annually in the US alone
- international coordination confusion
It fucking sucks
There’s been numerous referandums on the subject in which people have had the opportunity to vote on dealing with this shit.
Option A) leave it as is.
Option B) permanent DST
Option C) permanent whatever the other option is called.
Since getting rid of changing the clocks 2 times per year gets split between 2 different solutions, not fixing it wins the vote.
24% spike in heart attacks on the Monday after setting the clock forward
Is this true? If so, that’s a pretty crazy statistic.
Iirc the heart attacks even out over the span of a few weeks, so Idk about the others.
Iirc the heart attacks even out over the span of a few weeks, so Idk about the others.
Did you get it, or…
I hate daylight savings time so much.
Do other countries do this stupid shit? We can’t even do time right
As an Indian, no we don’t.
some countries do. Wikipedia link
shorter work days mean longer work days in summer. No thanks
I just strongly dislike my biorhythms being thrown out of whack for several weeks twice a year.
Yeah. It ending is a nice little treat I dont mind because Im able to sleep in and I get to be like “oh wow it feels so much later but it’s only 5 we have so much time!” for a few days until I adjust, but losing an hour in the spring can go to hell.
We dont even get anything out of it. Towards the end of daylight savings in october it’s actually darker in the mornings when you wake up which sucks cause it switches off just in time for it to also get darker earlier due to winter. Whats the pro of springing forwards? The sun fully sets at 9 instead of 8 in the summer? Admittedly I do love long summer days, but if lets be real that tradeoff is minimal(and kinda annoying if you have young kids).
Theres like a 2 week period in spring where its like “oh neat the sun is still up” in the evening. The whole thing is dumb.
Even in October when the clocks are turned back and we “get an extra hour” it still fucks with my body’s internal clock. And it takes weeks for me to adjust to the regular time.
My dog has no clue. She still wants a walk and will not be denied. Human timekeeping be damned.
I mean… I have young kids with delacate sleep schedules, and I just want them to stop fucking with the clock. Please just pick a lane and stay in it.
Shorter work days? The corporate and government bastards would add a week or month to the calendar, especially in the 3rd World countries, China and USA. Those folks would embrace it with their stupid work hard beyond the point of diminishing return attitude while the civilized 1st World countries would revolt.
The real problem with daylight savings time is that we haven’t killed and devoured the oligarchy/hegemony/kakistocracy.
There is another solution: live far enough up north and the day disappears totally eventually.
I live up north and I can tell you DST makes fuck-all difference after a week here.
There are only 2 days, summer and winter. All DST do is mess with my sleep pattern twice a year.
Hmmm they make a strong case. We should think about trying this.
That’s a recipe for overpopulation :)
Hahaha I dunno why so many DV’s this is funny and true
LOL, no idea, at least someone enjoyed it.
“Everything is made up and the points don’t matter”
:)
Can we just pick one time and stick to it instead of swapping twice a year?
A lot of places are doing that, but they’re making the stupid decision to keep DST all year, which means that solar noon is at 1pm.
Just keep it the same all year. Keep solar noon at 12pm. If you think it’s dangerous for kids to be catching the bus in the dark in winter, start school 1 hour later. If that means parents might need to stay home longer to see their kids off to school, start work later.
This isn’t rocket surgery. Adjust the work and school schedule, not the clock.
Who cares when solar noon is? Id like to get out of work with any amount of sunlight.
This isn’t rocket surgery. Adjust the work and school schedule, not the clock.
I care when solar noon is. You should too. What does solar noon have to do with getting out of work with sunlight? If that matters to you, make it a demand when you get a job.
It doesnt make any sense to keep DST permanent there’s no pluses.
a) It will be still dark at 7am for large chunks of the year this sucks. b)You get one final shitty spring forwards, but lose out of the pleasure of one last fall back.
a) It will be still dark at 7am for large chunks of the year this sucks.
Why? Is there something special about “7am”?
morning people be like
Sorry if i wasn’t very clear when I was kind of rapidly typing. To elaborate even by late October it’s still dark by like 7 And that’s with daylight savings time still in effect. If daylight savings time were still in effect in the winter, then by late December The sun wouldn’t be up until nine o’clock. That sucks
Seven in particular is a touchstone because that’s when a lot of people are up going to or getting ready for work and it’s when kids are often going to school and waiting for the bus.
Sure, there are places in more northern latitudes that have to deal with these compromises, but it’s a silly compromise to make when it’s artificially made.
Better to let end daylight savings one final time and leave it ended
The sun wouldn’t be up until nine o’clock. That sucks
Why? What does nine o’clock matter? Does it bother you that right now it’s 3pm in Beijing but it’s the middle of the night in North America?
The numbers on a clock are just numbers on a clock. It doesn’t suck any less if it’s dark at 4am or 7am or 10am.
Seven in particular is a touchstone because that’s when a lot of people are up going to or getting ready for work
There’s no reason that can’t change. If you don’t like being up at 7am when it’s dark, then change the time you start work.
and it’s when kids are often going to school and waiting for the bus.
There’s no reason kids have to go to school at 7am. Kids could go to school at 9am. There’s nothing sacred about the current schedule.
but it’s a silly compromise to make when it’s artificially made.
Yes, I completely agree. This arbitrary school start time of 8am or 8:30 or 9am or whatever it is where you live is artificially made, and can be changed. There’s no reason to keep that arbitrary time and instead change the clocks so that time occurs when it’s light outside.
Wow, you really like arguing, don’t you?
Only when someone is wrong.
DST sucks because you have to go to school when it’s dark and leave school when it’s dark
For Europe we currently share a timezone across many countries (CET/CEST). That is way too convenient to ever change. Noon is probably never going to be at 12pm everywhere.
For a big geographic area like Europe, the best you can do is make it so that on average for the population solar noon is around 12pm. Some people in the east will get solar noon before their clocks say it’s 12pm, people in the west will get it after the clocks say it’s 12pm, but on average, solar noon is at noon.
China has an even stranger situation. It’s a huge country that uses one time zone. They’ve set it so that for the majority of people / most important cities, noon is at noon. But, that means that some people in the far west of China have clocks saying it’s noon long before the sun gets to its peak. But, that might be a reasonable compromise to have everybody in the country on the same clock. What would be dumb is to have everybody in the country on the same clock, then say that for the majority of people solar noon is when the clocks say 3pm.
Western culture is so alienated from Country that it’s easier to change time itself than to change work schedules
Not sure what that has to do with Country.
The clocks should agree with the sun, and the sun is part of Country. Noon should be when the sun is up. People are alienated from the natural cycles happening on Country.
Uhhh… which country exactly is the sun part of?
Yeah, that’s stupid but still a step up from swapping.
No, I mean yes, but let’s do that in the picture first!
“AI revolutionizes the way we work so that a lot of people get kicked out of their jobs.”
Hey, if we can do most of the work without the people even working, why the hell am I doing overtime here? Why is anyone? Let the machine do the hard work, I’ll enjoy life meanwhile.
AND DAYLIGHT, FFS!
Yeah, definitely that as well. Although I think “let’s not do daylight savings swaps anymore” is going to be a much easier fight since there is no powerful vested interest in keeping it…
Many places have. Just about the only thing I support my current government doing.
I had to start work at 2 this morning. Alarm set for 1:30. Woke up, 30 minutes later it was 1 am again.
For years I’ve said I never even notice DST because my phone and computer just update on their own. I’ve officially been hoisted by my own petard.
Shoulda set it for the other 1:30
I gotta change 3 house clocks, a car and several wristwatches. Every damned time I think I got the DST settings fixed on my Casio collection, nope! We shall see in the morning.
