• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    The classification of cannabis changed to incarnate more black people. It’s a historical fact and it’s sad that many people don’t know that.

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        3 months ago

        I smoked pot and now I have a new isekai life with superpowers and a band of roaming catgirl assassins who enforce my will upon an otherwise cruel, dark, and corrupt world in an alternate dimension.

        This could happen to you.

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          3 months ago

          I didn’t mean anything by it, and assumed it was autocorrect. I was just amused by the visual of it in my head.

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      2 months ago

      Just gonna drop this quote form a Nixon aide here:

      “You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did”

      The war on drugs was a war on blacks and anti-Vietnam activists.

    • Default Username@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      I believe originally, it was used to incarcerate Latin Americans, hence the naming of “Marihuana” and later, “Marijuana” to make it sound more Spanish.

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    3 months ago

    I don’t think those are “gateways” though. I think the real gateway is when you try something that you’re taught is vilified and told it will make you stupid and ruin your life, but then all it really does is chill you out. The gateway is realizing you’ve been lied to and you wonder what else was a lie so you try other things. Alcohol if anything has the opposite problem.

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      3 months ago

      100%. There’s also the fact that when weed is illegal, the only way to get it is through someone who likely sells other illegal substances so it’s not hard to start messing around with other things after smoking for a bit.

      Weed is only a gateway drug when its illegal

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    3 months ago

    It goes along with how they categorize cannabis as “drug” while alcohol for some reason gets it’s own special category.

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      3 months ago

      Because one is legal and one isn’t…

      If alcohol or tobacco was illegal, they’d be treated like illegal drugs

      Laws aren’t always correct.

      Do you understand it now?

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        2 months ago

        This is so dumb, and both of you are very obviously 'Murica brained where you just can’t think of any difference there is oitside the US. Both Alcohol and Nicotine are drugs, and so are medications, they’re just legal drugs. It’s not “not a drug” and “drug (meaning illegal”, it’s “legal drug” and “illegal drug”.

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        2 months ago

        If you’re gonna do a quote, the use quotation marks. It doesn’t matter if it’s old or recent, just saves everyone time and effort by not misunderstanding you.

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    3 months ago

    Person 1: You know what? You’re right. They should all be deregulated.

    Person 2: You know what? You’re right. They should all be illegal.

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      3 months ago

      2 : Mormons

      EDIT: Although not sure , given how Utah/SLC is. IT’s a shitty joke, I apologise.

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    3 months ago

    The war on drugs has always been bullshit. I wonder how many bosses have said “drug free workplace” or principals saying “drug free campus” while holding a cup of coffee.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not for prohibition whatsoever, but have you seen the difference between someone who chose coffee as their drug of choice and spend decades drinking it versus smoking meth?

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    3 months ago

    Calling alcohol and nicotine the first substances that most people abuse when caffeine exists is the biggest win in propaganda history.

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        3 months ago

        I’m sure more than a few people have said “coffee ain’t doin’ it for me anymore; I should try cocaine or meth,” though.

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        No but people have said if you take ten wake me ups (caffeine pills) it feels like cocaine

        So this is what coke is like

        These caffeine pills dont do that for me anymore

        Maybe I should try coke

        Source: my social circle in high school

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        2 months ago

        nobody has said it because the same person never sold both

        if you had to go to the ecstasy guy to buy your coffee too, then you’d be much more likely to try ecstasy as well

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            imagine a scenario, coffee is illegal. you can’t buy it in a normal shop, but the same guy that sells every other illegal substance has it. and you have to go to that guy to buy some coffee

            even though coffee is not similar in its effect to any harder drug by going out to buy it you’re gaining the skill of obtaining illegal substances, and also put yourself in a place where you can get a variety of them

            as you’re buying your coffee your drug dealer tells you “try this, it’ll make you feel really good” and you know what? society’s already lied to you about coffee being bad, maybe they’re lying about the ecstasy thing too, you already trust this guy, he’s been selling you good coffee, so might as well try something new and exciting too eh?

            and to be even more blunt, what i’m trying to say is that it’s not the substance itself that makes a drug be a “gateway” it’s the way you obtain it

            if weed was perfectly legal and sold freely then it would not longer be a gateway drug, because as you try it you don’t gain the experience and skill of obtaining illegal substances, nor do you get placed in a position where you can grab something extra with your purchase

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              Damn dude that’s a lot of text but I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks coffee can in any way shape or form lead to drug use lmao idc how well thought out your thesis is, it’s an insane hypothesis.

              Caffeine has plenty of health benefits also. Forcing the working class to rely on it to survive is bad, but whatever you’re saying is ridiculous.

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                2 months ago

                i suggest you actually read what i wrote, instead of making yourself look like a fool

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                16 days ago

                OK so you don’t know any truckers and the soccer moms are hiding it… check out the caffeine treats by the till next time you roll through a truck stop. Don’t buy any though, it’s brutal. So yeah stimulants are used widely, lead one to another as habituation and escalation kicks in and self-medicating goes off the rails for many.

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      Coffee isn’t really a mind-altering drug in the same way, and people take it for it’s effects recreationally. Getting drunk, though? It’s not for me, but people do that for fun, and then look to other ways to have fun in the same kinda way. All the sudden…

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        It 100% is a mind-altering drug, a body-altering one too. You can get super fucked up from caffeine, and overdose to a point of death (which you can’t with cannabis). Caffeine has little effect on me and many others but it has major effect on a big part of humanity (and other living beings). Some can’t drink coffee or energy drinks because it fuckes them up so much, and others get so addicted that they ruin their health from it.

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    It made sense though. People would get weed from their dealer that’s laced with something else, now they’re addicted to meth or something. Now that marijuana’s legalized and I don’t need a dealer, that risk is gone.

    • PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works
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      I live in a small ass rural Canadian town and drug dealers lacing weed was never a thing. Is this shit actually common cause I always felt it was fear mongering. I’d be way more worried about cocaine and other shit like that.

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      Weed doesn’t accidentally get laced with anything, and they sure as shit aren’t gonna give you it for free.

      Cocaine is laced (more like cut) with cleaning chemicals all the time to make it less coke and more clorox, which is considerably cheaper.

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    3 months ago

    I believe that sugar and caffeine are the real gateway drugs, they are the 1st chemical compounds many people are addicted to.