they contracted with the AFP to run the first node of the server and process the data. (Australian law does not provide the same protections as U.S. law for its citizens.)

Thanks for that link. I didn’t know that. We are below the US in privacy laws! Is there any first world country worst than Australia?

They said all users were criminals, but who knows what they are calling a crime, specially with the retarded laws down here…

It shows what I suspected, that Australian software and servers must be avoided even more than Americans.

That sounds horrifying. Although also completely predictable and expected, but I didn’t know that in Brazil it had reached that level. Isn’t Lula supposed to do something about it? Back in his first presidency (I was in Brazil back then), Linux was becoming the main OS.

Although the usual 2 party system ensures that the next government would destroy everything, so I imagine all the open source effort was demolished and it can’t keep being rebuilt from scratch every 4 years, when the next government return everything to microsoft.

Anyway, I sent you a message because I have personal interest in the issue. Thanks for the useful but horrifying information.

Norway! Yes, sorry!

Like I said my memory is hazy with the research I did many years ago. I just remember it’s not in the 9 eyes.

The last part was also important. Back then it didn’t even need javascript. I think runbox6 still doesn’t.

Anyway, I like them and I hope they got more users. My only concern is of them going bankrupt. But many years later they are still here.

Good to see another user. I hope there are many of us!

https://runbox.com/

https://runbox.com/price-plans/

The cheapest option is like 20 dollars a year. I think I have the middle one. Not sure, it’s been on that for years. I’m pretty sure it’s the cheapest privacy oriented one. I tried several since then but I always end up back on runbox.

Server location is Sweden. Which was a major reason for me, outside of 9 eyes (I don’t remember, I researched a lot before getting it but the details are forgotten).

I think they don’t encrypt? Not sure. This was never that important to me. It was more about server location, privacy respecting and open source friendly.

I don’t like their runbox7 though. Luckily it doesn’t seem like they will ever disable runbox6. It’s old school but reliable and fast. Runbox 7 is too full of feature and issues for me. You can easily toggle which email system you’re seeing or loging into.

Oh yeah, and runbox6 is super user friendly. It’s old style with just what you expect. Runbox 7 may be more depending on who you’re asking. It’s not for me, since it’s too many icons and too little text.

Oh, and about trustworthy, it’s more than I thought it could be. Every issue I had was quickly answered by one of the founders, who was super helpful and honest, even where it doesn’t help them. When my domain expire I’m going to let them handle it. I didn’t want to leave all eggs in one basket, but I even told him, they are the only company I would trust with this.

After all interactions I had wit them, they are literally the only company I trust. But that took years.

I’ve been using Runbox for many years and it’s weird i don’t see recommendations.