NielsBohron

It’s with noting that the adventure paths and Paizo one-shots are also all very well-written (from the perspective of a novice GM). I’ve sat down with a group of 11yo kids after giving the adventure a 15-minute glance and been able to run a pretty decent session with next to no prep time.

I chortled at that one

IIRC, the seven canaries are all disguised ancient gold dragons, and Bahamut himself is known as “the platinum dragon,” so murderhobos should prepared to get their shit rocked.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: in PF2, you can be any type of character you can imagine

Can I interest you in hearing the gospel of the Shoony?

We use Roll20 as a VTT, but we all run a zoom meeting at the same time because we live in different states and continents and it’s good to see their faces (and their kids and partners). Shrug It’s a pretty wide range of technology skills and preferences, so we went with the stuff people know best.

Mörk Borg? Other Fria Liga? Other Borg-likes? Other Kickstarter games? Is that just me?

Don’t get me wrong, I love PF2 and I mostly actually play 5E with my friends on zoom (that bunch of Philistines), but I can’t be the only one obsessively finding niche games online like Into the Odd and Forbidden Lands and Frontier Scum and Inevitable and porting them into system-agnostic hex-flowers that could support Dark-Tower-esque realm crawling and West March-ish living worlds that I can never find anyone that wants to play and…

Do I have a problem? Am I out of touch? No, it’s the D&D players that are wrong

Which is as it should be, as it’s what Conan is.

too goddamn right. I don’t know why I never realized that before.

I guess murderhobos gonna murderhobo

This is why you play Pathfinder, where the PC’s can be the traditional “monstrous” races. It seems a lot more like slavery or kidnapping when there are PC’s with the same ancestry

Haha, Mörk Borg go brrrr

Edit: any system that’s described as “a pitch-black, apocalyptic TTRPG” and uses “scum” in place of “player characters” is ok by me.

FFS, the official tagline is “a doom metal album of a game. A spiked flail to the face. Light on rules, heavy on everything else;” what more do you fellow grimdank dorks want?

I can hear this comment.

Exactly. I think we actually “started” just by giving them coloring pages of cartoony fantasy creatures and characters and then making up stories about goblins and dragons on our morning walks, which in turn got them excited about their characters and miniatures and rolling dice

You can start when they’re as little as 4 and have decent results. I started with mine when they were 5 and 3 with Hero Kids and by the time they hit 6 and 8, they’d graduated to Pathfinder 2 (edit: albeit with a great deal of help/handholding)

10/10, would indoctrinate children with gateway drugs games again

It’s been a bit since I read The Book of the Dead, but isn’t there an ancestry option for skeletons to create something like a phylactery at higher levels?

Edit: or maybe even for wizards in general?

Edit 2: “Lich dedication” is an archetype feat with the prerequisites that the user be an expert in crafting, have the ability to cast 6th level spells, and spend 1,600gp to build the soul cage (which deprecated the term “phylactery,” since phylacteries are an active religious artifact in some sects of Judaism).

Power level and lore, mostly.

My brother in Christ, you’d best be playing Pathfinder 2. Gnolls are freaking badass PC ancestry (as are must of the other major “monstrous” races like kobolds, gobbos, orcs, and skeletons)

My list of “characters I long to play if ever I can find a group where I’m not a Forever GM” includes:

• A radical leftist Redeemer paladin gnoll whose dream to is convince other gnolls that gnolls can show they are better than the rest of the world if they don’t use slavery, and so runs around organizing slave revolts and making dramatic speeches that often devolve into riots.

• A goblin gunslinger that fights like he’s trying to earn a place in Tucker’s Kobolds

• A skeleton wizard who’s convinced he’s a lich but really just fucked up the ritual and lost nearly all of his magical knowledge

• A kobold sorcerer with an inferiority complex that keeps referring to themselves as “dragon born” (which don’t exist in Pathfinder), and thinks that one day their god will elevate them to being an actual dragon

Edit: some more I just remembered

• A “poppet” ranger trying to find his lost child (aka The Velveteen Rabbit)

• A Ratfolk assassin that lives in the sewers and claims they are trying to keep some “grimdank future-past” from happening and keeps muttering to themselves to “find-kill hammer-god”

• A dhampir cavalier that rides a skeletal horse

Yeah, I know. It would probably take some help from the DM to homebrew a patron that has cleric-flavored cantrips, and even then it would likely only work for a few sessions at low levels, but I still like the idea

I’ve always loved the idea of playing a warlock that presents themselves to the party as a cleric (and then seeing how long it takes people to catch on, both in and out of character)

Nothing like driving the “cleric” deeper into debt to their patron for a little more healing and then getting the whole party committed to some insane quest at the demand of the patron.

7:7 All praise Yetsabu-Nech, the underworld’s nightmare, the black disk which stands before the sun! All praise Verhu, beaming with delight! All praise the fire which burns all! And the darkness shall swallow the darkness.