So, I have a question on Motorola Mobility. The company is Chinese-owned, but US-based. This means it’s subject to the invasive CLOUD Act, and that US kangaroo courts even can require parent companies to provide that data.
Android also would lock down Android from september 2026, meaning that vendor-independent downloading (sometimes falsely named ‘sideloading’) would be rendered impossible, and all apps must be from verified developers, for which they’d have to give identification, iirc.
So how would a custom OS like e/ or GOS be affected by this? How would the latter ensure it’s not subject to the CLOUD Act? Or not affected at all downstream due to the locking down?
Sure, Motorola would qualify for the hardware specs needed for GOS, but legally considering, aren’t there issues? I’m considering to get a new phone that would be good privacywise, but I don’t like the thought of depending on the USA or China. It almost feels like a fed honeypot that way. Ethics is important to me.
I’ve thought about getting a Jolla phone with Sailfish instead, since that’s practically Linux. Or a Fairphone with e/, but from what I hear there are concerns surrounding privacy.
So I’ve no idea what to do. My ideal would’ve been a Fairphone with hardware suitable for GOS, and then having GOS on it, but alas. If there’s another option for phones also, I’d like to know.
I thought that Motorola and GrapheneOS were collaborating on a new phone. Which makes you wonder seeing as you stated that Motorola is a Chinese company based jn the USA how that would work.
They are, yes. But it feels all very paradoxical.
A company owned by a country with pervasive surveillance, set in a country with pervasive surveillance laws, cooperating with a OS developer for anti-surveillance measures.
Granted, I could see that from places with pervasive surveillance, a need arises for something that removes all that surveillance. But then, would governments not be harsh on that?
Yeah, it seems like a baazar relationship. Much like religion and government. I’m not sure who this will work with GrapheneOS and Motorola being bed fellows. That said GrapheneOS currently runs in Pixel phones and it’s open source (I believe) so it would work.