My friend ran a one shot session a while back. Lots of fun, new players to the table, but everyone was experienced. The boss that night wasnt the commissar or the backstabbing official that gave us the mission, it was a locked door. Sometimes it’s not about the storytelling or the hooks. sometimes even good players in a good group are dense and all you can do is sit there hoping they figure it out as they bang their heads against the wall.
That’s an entirely different issue than what the meme, and I, are talking about imho.
If you’re essentially saying “sometimes players need more help than you expect with a puzzle because you have perfect knowledge and they don’t,” then I agree with you.
But that’s not the players “fucking up” a “carefully plotted tale of political intrigue”.
My friend ran a one shot session a while back. Lots of fun, new players to the table, but everyone was experienced. The boss that night wasnt the commissar or the backstabbing official that gave us the mission, it was a locked door. Sometimes it’s not about the storytelling or the hooks. sometimes even good players in a good group are dense and all you can do is sit there hoping they figure it out as they bang their heads against the wall.
That’s an entirely different issue than what the meme, and I, are talking about imho.
If you’re essentially saying “sometimes players need more help than you expect with a puzzle because you have perfect knowledge and they don’t,” then I agree with you.
But that’s not the players “fucking up” a “carefully plotted tale of political intrigue”.
You telling me the gang wouldn’t get sidetracked by a locked door?
Respectfully mate, I’ve said my piece. Have a good one.