I’ve been reading about the user revolt on the Twin Peaks subreddit calling for a ban on AI art. As best I can tell we don’t really have people posting AI stuff here yet, but I’m wondering if it would be a good idea to ban it before it becomes a problem. I’m soliciting feedback from y’all on this, please let me know what you prefer.

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    Even if we ignore the ethics and quality of it, which many people are understandably unwilling to do, part of the problem with it is that it can crowd out everything else. It takes so little effort that where it is allowed, there is always a real chance of it becoming virtually the only thing posted

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      Another way that allowing it could lead to it being the only thing posted is that its presence could easily scare off genuine, non-scam creators. “AI” overwhelming the open Web isn’t just a matter of the volume of generated content; it’s also that the presence of it has prompted people who actually make things to retreat into places that require logins or membership on the assumption that these are “safe” from scraping (which isn’t always true).

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          That would depend on the wording of the general rule, which would depend on what exactly it’s trying to accomplish.

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            Presumably ensuring that other types of content don’t get crowded out. I’m not sure how a general anti-spam rule would manage that. The solution I’ve seen elsewhere is to restrict certain types of content (like meme posts) to specific days of the week

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      if it drowns out everything else, it means that it’s being upvoted. if it’s being upvoted, then it means the community likes it. I see no issue with a preponderance of content coming from a single tool when the community is ultimately capable of moderating it just like any other content. why should I not be allowed to upvote something that I like because it came from AI, just because other people have a moral objection to it? I respect their right to object, but I don’t think they should be able to force those values onto me. if that is their goal, then they need to articulate an issue and be persuasive, not make rules in communities in which I’m a participant.

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        That philosophy never, ever works for communities about specific topics, though. Too many people see it in their all or subbed feeds without looking at where it was posted

        It’s also entirely possible for any individual kind of post, regardless of it being AI or not, to be legitimately decent content for a community but still crowd out other kinds of content that the community wants to promote. That’s why many places have specific days for specific kinds of content, like allowing meme posts on Mondays but not other days so that discussions still get to the top

        why should I not be allowed to upvote something that I like because it came from AI, just because other people have a moral objection to it?

        This principle basically doesn’t allow any restrictions on any kind of content anywhere unless it’s explicitly harmful enough to raise that as a separate objection. Why shouldn’t I be allowed to upvote hardcore pornography on the news community? It’s not a practical way to actually run a community

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        > if it’s being uploaded, then it means the community likes it

        That really isn’t how the Internet works at all. Someone uploading something just means that that person likes it. It’s not like they’re uploading based on the collective psychic demands of the rest of the community.