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So this is an add for tuta?
No.
This list is… fine, but unfortunately missing a number of good FOSS alternatives. Still, it’s good info for most of these categories.
Having said that, it’s eternally frustrating that infographics like these so often don’t recommend actual alternatives for YouTube specifically. It’s always just “keep using YouTube, but with these apps instead” which, that’s “fine”, but not exactly degoogling. It’s not even really a step towards degoogling, because you’re still tied to watching content from Google, so when that frontend stops functioning, you’re highly tempted to go back to using Google’s YouTube apps.
It gets people out the door. They can refine later.
Impressive contribution. Listing all that’s wrong while offering zero alternatives.
You want me to provide an infographic of my own in order to make a minor critique of this one? That seems like a silly expectation to have to begin with, but also, you’re commenting in a community that has many many threads with actual Google alternatives discussed.
GrayJay is pretty good option, it does have YT but also has plug-ins for other services. So it could be good for getting results if searching for something that will show up in YT that the creator also uploaded to other sites, while still having the option to watch if not. Also has built-in support for SponsorBlock and DeArrow for the things that are only on YT (and can opt to sign into or stay signed out of YT account). PeerTube is still a mess though. Not able (or at least I don’t know how) to pick your instance to sign into and doesn’t seem to allow for adding to the pool of peers to help upload while watching. But I don’t think even the phone apps that specifically are for PT do that/have the option. Would be nice to be able to do that if on WiFi at least.
Also Aurora store. It’s just a front-end to play store. One should also ditch all chromium based browsers for couple of reasons
- Chromium is fully controlled by google
- It enforces mono-culture in web browsers (it’s the internet explorer of $currentYear).
I feel like they did that with Youtube because there really aren’t any relevant alternatives. I mean there are alternatives but they’re really pretty small and niche so far.
You’re right, but also those alternatives will remain small and niche for longer the more people are not being directed to them as real alternatives.
There are creators slowly migrating their content to Peertube, for example. It would be nice for lists like this to be recommending that alternative more so those creators see interest rising there.
Why am I the only one using FOSS browser?
There’s a browser called FOSS?
They missed to mention Jitsi Meet, posteo.de, Nextcloud, Piped, and XMPP (for an example Snikket). But other than that, really good list! 😃
And yes, you can use others servers for Nextcloud, Piped, and XMPP/Snikket. No need for self-hosting your own.
Signal is fed controlled
Source?
I’ll be very happy when a google wallet alternative is made (don’t think it’s really possible right now!?).
Notesnook is pakistan based company
Are you sure? Their website says all their servers and data are in Germany. Also, how does it matter as long as the source code is open and transparent?
You can check it on their legal Terms, yes I am sure
Why is Filen not listed as an alternative for Google Drive? Filen is also a german company.
I’ve used Nootsnook, Joplin, and Standard Notes.
None are super simple “Digital Post-it notes”. They’re all trying to be full notebook replacements, with lots of bigger features.I’ve never actually seen a real Google Keep replacement. I remember one, but it was a local only android app. That doesn’t work for me. I need shareable Post-its.
quillpad? it says it has experimental nextcloud syncing support, that could be used to share it. or do you rather want a centralized service?
Didn’t think I’d see a degoogling list without DeepL, for translations. That’s definitely a choice.
Couple of additions:
- translate -> deepL (AI based with a free tier (no account required)), or for websites FireFox has a builtin offline translation tool
- drive -> Filen (Zero knowledge, E2EE)
- search -> Kagi (paid), or one of the listed
Also check the Fossify apps.
How is it that all these lists are always kinda bad? They always miss some obvious good alternatives or have ones that shouldn’t be there. I’ve seen so many posted and not a single one has been without issues. And these are not subjective things I’m referencing, I’d have no issue with that, they just always seem to be made by someone who has very shallow and uninformed knowledge about the alternatives. My main issue here is Kagi missing from search, and Proton and Brave being part of any of the recommendations.
Tuta is a direct competitor to Proton. They would get more flak for excluding it then including it. Better to have it in and let people discuss Proton’s issues in the comments.
Whats the issue with proton?
CEO had a weird remark about a usa republican politician, people didn’t like to find out that some of their devs use AI coding assistants and then they attempted (and failed spectacularly) to remove its traces from their github repositories, and many don’t like that they launched a free LLM service.
I don’t know if I agree with the first one. I don’t know what to make of it, there is contradictory information about it on the internet, but I certainly keep that in mind.
I don’t care that much about the copilot configs in the repo, because I think it can be used kind of responsibility (relatively to the environment, not, though), but it’s extremely suspicious how they handled it.
the third is something I don’t agree with completely either. are we also hating duckduckgo for having duck.ai , or is it only proton? people say marketing it as encrypted is a scam. sure the queries cannot be end to end encrypted, but the storage of former chats can. did they market it as an E2EE service, without specifying which part is like that?
Jitsi is a great open source alternative to Google Meet and Zoom etc
stop. with. the. brave. bullshit.
I never understood it either. Like vanilla FF with some tweaks made it just as good (if not better) than Brave out of the box. We have Librewolf and Arkenfox too. Mull existed for Android, now we have Fennec and IronFox. I get that
about:configcan suck sometimes (I’m in a fight with it every month on IronFox 😅), but like follow a guide or two and you’ll have Brave without the crypto and blatantly allowing “whitelisted” sites to stalk you.It’s just unnecessary at this point…
Brave is a cult.
Brave is specifically a crypto based advertising company cult.
Crypto bros reskinned chrome, added some built in plugins, added their own crypto advertising tokens, and went all queerphobic.
Somehow a few people decided to build their identity around this. Anytime your bring up tech with them they try to sneak their cult-y Brave stuff in. It’s worse than MLM people at this point.
It was exposed so soon after it got popular, years ago, but people still act like it’s so private and secure in the year of our lord 2025. I’m inclined to believe it’s astroturfed.
Makes sense. Like only paid employees or dedicated cult members would produce such a recommendation chart. Brave Translate but no DeepL? Brave Talk but no Jitsi? Crazy.
Firefox has built in LOCAL translation but no mention of that. 🤷♀️
It seriously is. I see people on Privacy Guides and reddit that are adamant that it’s amazing, which can be easily tested to not be the case.
Even when stripped down and hardened, Brave isn’t magic, and reveals your canvas fingerprint data.
I’ve checked once on the fingerprint testing website how my firefox scores and brave just out the box scored way better. I have been considering to move to brave since then. Temporarily I settled on using firefox for casual web browsing and mullvad for shopping.
Aurora stopped working recently, is there any alternative?
