self host is the best solution if you want total control of your emails
How hard is that? And how secure would it actually be? Not criticizing just curious why more people don’t do it.
Every time I’ve looked into it, most advice I’ve gotten was that it’s not a good idea.
It sucks ass. The following was my experience when I tried it- you may have better luck.
- I was bending over backwards to convince other email providers to accept my outgoing messages
- The spam. Good God, the spam.
Too true. self-hosters represent!
I’ve used mailfence’s paid entry tier for several years now. Been happy with them.
They are on the “other excellent options” list, but wanted to give them a highlight.
There are so many good choices that it is hard to showcase them all - Mailfence often gets recommended
I wish there was a tool that allowed you to see all the shit you have signed up under your google account so it would make it easier to move
Aren’t you able to see this in your Google account settings? I could have sworn I’ve seen a list of all the sites where I used “Sign in with Google”.
Yeah that’s only if you sign in with google, and don’t just regularly sign up xD
This doesn’t really help. Which ones support custom domains? Have spam filters? Support “+” based addresses? Support DKIM/DMARC?
Not just “do the have an environmental pledge”
mailbox.org does all of what you asked for.
Do your own research. This is supposed to be a starting point.
A free or very low cost service for hosting my catchall domain address
where does hotmail (Microsoft) and Yahoo fit in?
There is also „poczta interia” which is email provider. They support third party email clients and it’s free. Their official app has ads and interface is in polish
don’t trust proton too much. ceo is a fascist.
deleted by creator
i mean if you assume he meant it
deleted by creator
i just think its rational to lie and cheat and kiss ass and bribe to actually defend encryption and digital privacy rather than try and win brownie points from twitter by #resist 'ing online.
i mean lord knows the orange man is easy to trick and bribe. 400m got qatar in the door and then convinced him to abandon israel lol. even less to screw over ukraine.
yes if you decide to inform yourself on actual information aka his social profiles and what he actually said and not some terminally online user’s paragraph on reddit
You should use a VPN anyway if you’re that worried about your Email provider knowing your IP.
deleted by creator
I was under the impression that only specifically protonMAIL logs your IP because of specific laws targeting mail providers while ProtonVPN is not required to.
https://protonvpn.com/support/no-logs-vpn/
" We don’t log which websites you visit We don’t log your traffic or the content of any communications We don’t log your IP address We don’t log your session lengths We don’t log or track any location-based information "
And that while the same applies by DEFAULT by all of their products
https://proton.me/legal/privacy
“2.5 IP logging: By default, we do not keep permanent IP logs in relation with your Account.”
They can’t definitively say they don’t log IP as they are legally required to log AFTER a valid court order from the swiss government demanding them to log and release for a specific person/account in accordance with the swiss Criminal Procedure Code article 269 as ProtonMAIL is considered a telecommunications platform
https://www.swissrights.ch/gesetze/Artikel-269-StPO-2023-EN.php
“The public prosecutor may arrange for post and telecommunications to be monitored if: a. there is a strong suspicion that an offence listed in paragraph 2 has been committed; b. the seriousness of the offence justifies surveillance; and c. investigative activities carried out so far have been unsuccessful or the enquiries would otherwise have no prospect of success or be made unreasonably complicated.”
If I’m wrong on this please correct me but this is my understanding and from the quick research I did to provide links and quotes it does still seems to be true to me.
Bolded my personal input text to make it more easily distinguishable
deleted by creator
I don’t feel the need to be complete anonymous, like you. But I do know of a group of people, who made an arrangement for 1 person to pay for all services they use online. There’s no real trail to any other than the one person. It works quite well for them, and they pay this person in cash…
I’m a bit confused why there’s a profit share indicator on the legend when seemingly none profit share. Otherwise, this is very cool!
Sorry, that is a bit confusing. The other guides have companies with that indicator. Should have removed it here though.
Been using fastmail for over 10 years and it’s fantastic. Two thing you should be aware though: 1st Australia is part of the five eyes, 2nd they have their servers (last I checked) in new york.
I considered switching from Proton to Fastmail, because Proton seems to run slow in Australia. Immediately stopped considering once I realized they delete your account if you don’t pay for 6 months (and by extension, you’ll lose all your connected accounts).
So if you’re homeless, arrested, deported, or in a coma and come out of it you’ll end up losing your entire digital life.
FYI you can’t use thunderbird with the proton free tier, only with premium. Switched recently and that was quite a surprise to me.
I don’t know about others, but I only have 2 emails, one with Google Mail and the other with Proton Mail.
There’s a lot of cheap mail-hotels, and a domain name is not costly either. I pay maybe 10 $ a year for both, and the mail is completely mine. I use Thunderbird as my mail-client on both windows, linux and android. Never had an issue, it just works.
I think that the biggest issue for a lot of people is, that they have to spend a little money on it. They buy shoes for 100 $ without thinking much about it, but private communication they often want for free…
Switzerland is still not part of the EU. Proton, Informaniak and Kolab should have the Swiss flag and not EU. It’s not the same laws and they are not forced to apply GDPR to their policies.
