• argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    You forgot to read the very small fineprint after the rant hyperbole: *) true for desktop applications.

    Ignoring phones in 2023 is patent nonsense.

    You could go with C++ and QT. Though, writing C++ code is never easy/fun

    It’s also ludicrously expensive, so as far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t exist.

    Everybody and his mother tries to push their custom iOS and Android apps, relegating web sites to the desktop.

    Madness. I’m not going to develop and maintain three completely different versions of the same app in perpetuity.

    Any multi platform GUI toolkit with a cross-compilable language will give you twice the functionality in half the development time over HTML+CSS+JavaScript.

    Maybe it would if one existed.

    I’m trying to paint a picture what a horrible absolute clusterfuck the web GUI technology stack is.

    I don’t disagree, but I also don’t see any viable alternative.

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      It’s also ludicrously expensive, so as far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t exist.

      QT, writing C++, or both? Paying for a good technology can be cheaper in the long run if you save development time. And sure, developing in C++ is more expensive than JavaScript, because you can’t let cheap web code monkeys do it.

      Madness

      Indeed. But, very common madness.

      Maybe it would if one existed.

      I think I made it quite clear, that I set the scope for the desktop. There are several. At least QT even includes mobile.

      I don’t disagree, but I also don’t see any viable alternative.

      It’s nice to “agree to agree” sometimes ;-)

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        QT, writing C++, or both?

        Qt.

        Paying for a good technology can be cheaper in the long run if you save development time.

        Only until the price gets jacked up beyond what you can afford, and then you’re scrambling to rewrite your entire application to use something else that’s still affordable.

        And sure, developing in C++ is more expensive than JavaScript, because you can’t let cheap web code monkeys do it.

        An awful lot of code is written in C++, so I’m not sure that was ever a serious constraint.

        I think I made it quite clear, that I set the scope for the desktop. There are several.

        Sure, if we’re targeting desktop only, then there are lots of options: GTK, wxWidgets, Swing…

        But what does it matter? You can’t ignore mobile in 2023.